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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
		<link>http://www.melnyks.com/lesson-eleven-buying-and-bargaining-in-chinese/#comment-133107</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 04:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nihao,

Thanks for the question. Technically, yes, it should be ji3 tiao2, as tiao2 is a measure word for ties. But...since ge4 is the universal measure word, it can be used with any noun. Also, on the market, the language will most likely be simpler and you will hear less &#039;educated&#039; or standard Mandarin. So hearing ni3 yao4 ji3ge won&#039;t be a big surprise.

Hope this helps.

Serge

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nihao,</p>
<p>Thanks for the question. Technically, yes, it should be ji3 tiao2, as tiao2 is a measure word for ties. But&#8230;since ge4 is the universal measure word, it can be used with any noun. Also, on the market, the language will most likely be simpler and you will hear less &#8216;educated&#8217; or standard Mandarin. So hearing ni3 yao4 ji3ge won&#8217;t be a big surprise.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Serge</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Costeux</title>
		<link>http://www.melnyks.com/lesson-eleven-buying-and-bargaining-in-chinese/#comment-133106</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Costeux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serge:
I am studying lesson 11, dialog 3. 
B asks about ties: &quot;Ni yao ji ge?&quot;
Why not: &quot;Ni yao ji tiao?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge:<br />
I am studying lesson 11, dialog 3.<br />
B asks about ties: &#8220;Ni yao ji ge?&#8221;<br />
Why not: &#8220;Ni yao ji tiao?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
		<link>http://www.melnyks.com/lesson-eleven-buying-and-bargaining-in-chinese/#comment-128292</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they can be used with any noun. When talking about plurals, it doesn&#039;t really matter which measure word, because we talk about several objects together, not single objects. Only if we name a single object, we need to use a measure word for that particular thing.

E.g. Zhe4 jian4 shi4qing2-this matter, but zhe4xie1 shi4qing2-these matters.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they can be used with any noun. When talking about plurals, it doesn&#8217;t really matter which measure word, because we talk about several objects together, not single objects. Only if we name a single object, we need to use a measure word for that particular thing.</p>
<p>E.g. Zhe4 jian4 shi4qing2-this matter, but zhe4xie1 shi4qing2-these matters.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Armitage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline Armitage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Serge
Are  yixie and zhexie plurals you can use with any noun irrespective of the measure word eg ge or jian that you would use with a number of objects?
Would you consider doing a download of the Chinese-only situational dialogues for, say, every 10 lessons so we can download a &quot;session&quot; of Chinese to listen to?
Your lessons are excellent!
Thanks
Pauline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Serge<br />
Are  yixie and zhexie plurals you can use with any noun irrespective of the measure word eg ge or jian that you would use with a number of objects?<br />
Would you consider doing a download of the Chinese-only situational dialogues for, say, every 10 lessons so we can download a &#8220;session&#8221; of Chinese to listen to?<br />
Your lessons are excellent!<br />
Thanks<br />
Pauline</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Serge,

Always wanted to learn chinese. Children have grown up so I decided to do some thing for myself, never too late to start I guess. Anyway I found your course, downloaded it all. I got the transcripts a couple of weeks later, they certainly make a big difference! I strongly recommend subscribing, great value.

By a stroke of luck we have a Graduate from Shanghai on a work placement. He helps me during my lunch break, just to make sure I had got the right material (sorry! no disrespect meant by that) he looked through your transcripts and said they are very accurate. He told me to stay With your downloads as i have learnt more in three months than a colleague who is just starting his second year at college! Thank you very much.
Julian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Serge,</p>
<p>Always wanted to learn chinese. Children have grown up so I decided to do some thing for myself, never too late to start I guess. Anyway I found your course, downloaded it all. I got the transcripts a couple of weeks later, they certainly make a big difference! I strongly recommend subscribing, great value.</p>
<p>By a stroke of luck we have a Graduate from Shanghai on a work placement. He helps me during my lunch break, just to make sure I had got the right material (sorry! no disrespect meant by that) he looked through your transcripts and said they are very accurate. He told me to stay With your downloads as i have learnt more in three months than a colleague who is just starting his second year at college! Thank you very much.<br />
Julian.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Destruge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando Destruge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Serge,

It is a pleasure to study your classes, I realize I have made them part of my everyday life, I love it. Lucky me, I found you when you had few classes and I made a habit to repeat and talk loud as you suggested.

But from time to time I listen to other programs that I listened before “no comparison” their way of teaching is sort of hard to follow. But your teaching makes me feel much comfortable and happy to understand it.

One question, I got your song ‘Beijing welcome you” and I would like to have the words of that class. Could you please help me? I would love to play it with my guitar.
Thank you for your nice work.
fdestruge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Serge,</p>
<p>It is a pleasure to study your classes, I realize I have made them part of my everyday life, I love it. Lucky me, I found you when you had few classes and I made a habit to repeat and talk loud as you suggested.</p>
<p>But from time to time I listen to other programs that I listened before “no comparison” their way of teaching is sort of hard to follow. But your teaching makes me feel much comfortable and happy to understand it.</p>
<p>One question, I got your song ‘Beijing welcome you” and I would like to have the words of that class. Could you please help me? I would love to play it with my guitar.<br />
Thank you for your nice work.<br />
fdestruge</p>
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		<title>By: usualsuspect</title>
		<link>http://www.melnyks.com/lesson-eleven-buying-and-bargaining-in-chinese/#comment-68236</link>
		<dc:creator>usualsuspect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s excellent, thanks Serge. Confusion over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s excellent, thanks Serge. Confusion over!</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
		<link>http://www.melnyks.com/lesson-eleven-buying-and-bargaining-in-chinese/#comment-68211</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ren2min2bi4(人民币) is the name for the Chinese currency. Literally, it translates as&quot;people&#039;s currency&quot;-ren2min2 means &#039;people&#039; and bi4 means &#039;currency&#039;. Just like you name a currency &#039;dollar&#039; or &#039;pound&#039;. So nothing special, just a name. 

When you talk about money in Mandarin, you usually add kuai4 qian2(块钱) after the number. E.g. &quot;ten chinese dollars(units, renminbi etc.) will be shi2 kuai4 qian2(十块钱), where shi2(十) means &#039;ten&#039;. Another way to say &#039;ten renminbi&#039; is shi2 yuan2(十元), where yuan2（元） is yuen,a different name for asian currency unit (compare to yen in Japan and won in Korea which in fact are the same word but different pronunciation). Yuan has a broader meaning and includes all periods of Chinese history, while Renminbi or people&#039;s currency only refers to communist China. Yuan is the same for Taiwan, Hongkong and China, renminbi is only in China. Hope this information is helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ren2min2bi4(人民币) is the name for the Chinese currency. Literally, it translates as&#8221;people&#8217;s currency&#8221;-ren2min2 means &#8216;people&#8217; and bi4 means &#8216;currency&#8217;. Just like you name a currency &#8216;dollar&#8217; or &#8216;pound&#8217;. So nothing special, just a name. </p>
<p>When you talk about money in Mandarin, you usually add kuai4 qian2(块钱) after the number. E.g. &#8220;ten chinese dollars(units, renminbi etc.) will be shi2 kuai4 qian2(十块钱), where shi2(十) means &#8216;ten&#8217;. Another way to say &#8216;ten renminbi&#8217; is shi2 yuan2(十元), where yuan2（元） is yuen,a different name for asian currency unit (compare to yen in Japan and won in Korea which in fact are the same word but different pronunciation). Yuan has a broader meaning and includes all periods of Chinese history, while Renminbi or people&#8217;s currency only refers to communist China. Yuan is the same for Taiwan, Hongkong and China, renminbi is only in China. Hope this information is helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: usualsuspect</title>
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		<dc:creator>usualsuspect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Serge,

I&#039;ve tried other methods of learning Mandarin before find your site and I&#039;m not sure if this is covered later on in the podcasts but if not can you please explain what &#039;renminbi&#039; is, in terms of their currency. Until now I&#039;ve been saying it as the unit instead of just &#039;money&#039;.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Serge,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried other methods of learning Mandarin before find your site and I&#8217;m not sure if this is covered later on in the podcasts but if not can you please explain what &#8216;renminbi&#8217; is, in terms of their currency. Until now I&#8217;ve been saying it as the unit instead of just &#8216;money&#8217;.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Serge! This site is awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to do this!!!

I have been in China for almost 6 months now, teaching English in N.E. China and this site will definitely help me!

Can you let all the universities in Canada know about this site?

Have you ever talked to or met &quot;Dashan&quot; from Canada?

Ok, all the best to you! Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Serge! This site is awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to do this!!!</p>
<p>I have been in China for almost 6 months now, teaching English in N.E. China and this site will definitely help me!</p>
<p>Can you let all the universities in Canada know about this site?</p>
<p>Have you ever talked to or met &#8220;Dashan&#8221; from Canada?</p>
<p>Ok, all the best to you! Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subscribe for lesson transcripts on www.melnyks.com I moved my podcast to www.melnyks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subscribe for lesson transcripts on <a href="http://www.melnyks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.melnyks.com</a> I moved my podcast to <a href="http://www.melnyks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.melnyks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: filo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ehi serge, i cannot get the works sheets dunno where to find them. listening every lesson, sometimes also three times...u r doin such an usefull and professional job!!! very compliments...i would likr to contact u for having a few hints about china!thanx mate helpin me a lot with my studies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ehi serge, i cannot get the works sheets dunno where to find them. listening every lesson, sometimes also three times&#8230;u r doin such an usefull and professional job!!! very compliments&#8230;i would likr to contact u for having a few hints about china!thanx mate helpin me a lot with my studies!</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melnyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got  back from my trip to China. Bargaining is essential almost everywhere. There is a real art to it and some people didnt really get it. I recommend you look at this site also
http://www.beijingtraveltips.com/tips/shopping_1/bargaining_howto.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got  back from my trip to China. Bargaining is essential almost everywhere. There is a real art to it and some people didnt really get it. I recommend you look at this site also<br />
<a href="http://www.beijingtraveltips.com/tips/shopping_1/bargaining_howto.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.beijingtraveltips.com/tips/shopping_1/bargaining_howto.htm</a></p>
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